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Here’s this week’s open thread for discussion and our regular round-up of some of the articles and blogs we’ve noticed but not had time to post about.

If you have a link or comment that doesn’€™t fit anywhere else, feel free to drop it in the comments here.

And I believe I shall break with tradition and finish this round-up with a video because, well, who needs a reason? :)

So, keeping the conceptual link to Kathleen Hanna, here’s Le Tigre with some sound advice :)

Helen G

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24 Responses

  1. Sheila

    Terrible case about the woman who refused to sign pre-consent for c-section. But REALLY? calling a c-section “slashing a woman’s belly” is hardly unemotive language and hardly helps feminists not to be thought of as fringe loonies. A c-section is a medically accepted practice. It does not involve slashing which suggests some sort of violence or mutilation.

  3. Elmo

    If I have one complaint about The F Word, its that when you click on a link, instead of opening a new tab, it redirects the page, which is annoying as I keep having to go back and forward. Is there a way to fix this?

    Saw some unpleasant transphobism on two episodes of Come Dine With Me, both by the participants and the narrator, but dont really know if its worth reporting, I imagine id get told off by C4 for over reacting

  5. cim

    Elmo: if you have a good enough mouse, most modern web browsers will open a new tab or window if you middle-click the link rather than left-clicking. (If you don’t, right-click the link and select the “open in new tab” option instead)

  6. Miranda

    Re: the C-section article. Just wanted to direct readers’ attention to

    http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/feature/2009/07/23/c_section_neglect

    which investigates a little further and points out that the mother’s refusal to pre-consent to a C-section was not the appellate court’s reason for refusing custody, and in fact the judgement explicitly excludes it.

    While I in no way want to excuse the disgraceful behaviour of the doctors in the hospital in this case, I am grateful at least that things have not got so bad that a child can be taken away purely for this reason…

  8. Helen G

    Don’t feel silly! It’s a really good idea but I gather that it’s not something we can ‘hard code’ in links, because it’s a browser-specific feature (some have the option to open links in tabs, but some don’t).

    The mouse-click options (Ctrl Click on a Mac) are a good workaround :)

  13. Laurel Dearing

    urgh, calling her a tart doesnt even match the tone in which its written! you call a soldier or police officer on behaviour and theyre ‘doing their job’, but a guy pays for sex and the woman who provided it is x y or z… im not pro-sex-industry by any stretch but come on! apologising on her behalf? how patronising!

  14. Ghostpaw

    A slight aside, but wow, what is it with all the trolls/ men’s-rights enthusiasts commenting on Sociological Images these days? The blog used to get some interesting discussions going, now it’s all “wahwahuroppressinme!” and “get a life you sad [misogynist insult]”.

  15. Elmo

    Laurel Dearing- exactly, you wouldnt call the police “pigs” or “the filth” in your headline, and then proceed to talk about them doing their jobs. I too am not pro-sex industry but- jeez!

  16. anon

    i would agree with everyone if she was a prostitute but she is s girl who goes to these clubs just to sleep with the players regardless of the fact that most of them are married. i find it hard to sypathise with a middle classed (privately educated) white girl who does not even need the money (according to her brothers). remember she is the one who sold the story.

  17. anon

    sorry but are we talking about the the privately-educated child of a wealthy oil company executive who sold a story about how she slept with a married man who had a baby on the way. her own brothers do not understand why she took the mone since she obviously does not need it. i am personally not against the sex industry and i would not go as far as some people calling her names on national papers, but she put herself out there. i would feel sympathy for her if she did not sell her story, if she was just doing her “job”. what i find most upsetting is how young, clever girls like her would see the celebrity lifestyle as something to aim for.

  20. Lindsey

    @Ghostpaw

    I’ve noticed the same thing! It really does feel like it’s got a lot worse lately, and I feel for the few bold feminists on there who put so much effort into arguing with them – sadly I don’t have the patience. It’s getting to the point where I just don’t bother with the comments any more, which is a shame because some commenters have really good, relevant points to make.

  21. anon

    i think rooney is not even worth talking about. i feel so sorry for coleen and i hope she is coping well. i can not imagine how she feels right now especially since it was made public in such a horrible way. the only person that deserves sympathy is colleen and no one else.

  22. coldharbour

    “Perhaps we could look at how Rooney, a very well paid man with a wife, could sleep with her?”

    Probably because he’s a self-entitled spoiled kid with shitloads of money and fuck-all social or moral responsibility pretty much like 99% of professional footballers.

  23. anon

    Elmo i have just read the article and i would not use half the words jane used to describe her i think they should be used to describe wayne. i feel sorry for the other girl who is getting dragged into this because she did not sell her story to some paper. i would have more respect for the prostitute if she did not write in detail how rooney was like in bed and how mnay times they slept together, it is not nice for coleen to read about.

  24. Elmo

    coldharbour, I was suggesting to anon that we’ve spent the last page looking at how terrible this women is, and that rooney hasnt even been mentioned. Basically, it was sarcasm. I’m well aware of what he is. I wasnt planning to have an indepth discussion

    Anon, I agree that the victim here is coleen, but my point in all this is that whenever a footballer has an affair, the woman is always at the centre of media attention, because they enjoy any chance to slag off women and prostitutes (regardless of whether the women in question “deserves” it). Even if this women hadnt sold her story, she’d still get the abuse-look at Vanessa Perroncel.

    Im not here to defend the protistute for selling her story, or insist that she’s “innocent”, just to point out that women are always at the centre of all the attention, blame and abuse from the tabloids. Coleen Rooney is still the victim

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